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[Wolff72]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far I know Xingbao (which is a daughter company of Lepin) produce MOC sets in cooperation with there designer, right?!

@RedBrick due to your great work on the design of your building (now become Lepin's 15016), maybe it would be worth for trying to get in contact with Xinbao/ Lepin to offer a cooperation work?!

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far I know Xingbao (which is a daughter company of Lepin) produce MOC sets in cooperation with there designer, right?!

@RedBrick due to your great work on the design of your building (now become Lepin's 15016), maybe it would be worth for trying to get in contact with Xinbao/ Lepin to offer a cooperation work?!

Yes you're correct!

And as for RedBrick that sounds like a great idea!

[flo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt that RedBrick wants anything to do with those companies after the way they treated his work in the past.

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

I surely think so too, but maybe they would compensate him for his set they already used.
Would love to see that...

[Ocus]

Hello eveybody,

This is my first message on the forum I discovered 2 days ago.
So many informations about no-lego product, hard to find that somewhere else !

I'm from France. I don't speak german but I'm using google translate to navigate in the forum.

@+

[Ocus]

I would also like to know how to participate to the forum discussions ?
I need to be added to a group, it seems ?

[loislz]

Thats right. For a small number of groups you need the permission to see it and post in it.
You get the permission after 10 (or 15, don't know excatly now) posts.

best

[Break]

Salut.
ocus. Si vous ne me dérange pas que je demande. Quel genre de groupe que vous voulez? ¿Thème, peut-être?

Post-scriptum Je l'utilise aussi traducteur google.


Hallo.
Wenn Sie nichts dagegen nicht meine Frage. Welche Gruppe wünschen Sie? vielleicht ¿Thema,?

P. S. Ich benutze auch Google Übersetzer.

[Ocus]

Hello Break,

I'm interested in all Lepin, Xinbao and cie news.

I'm not a fulltime fan of bricks, but I like to build it in my rest time (not a lot, because it comes after work, sports, family and home work ).

[Ocus]

I like the medieval/pirat themes (lot of old Lego sets and some Lepin pirats), Star Wars , and cars (VW Bus, Cox, Mini).

The last MOC from Xinbao are awaysome.

I think I will try the new Lepin Technic set, I newer had Technic bric before.

[Ocus]

Thats right. For a small number of groups you need the permission to see it and post in it.
You get the permission after 10 (or 15, don't know excatly now) posts.

best

Thank you for the information !

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

I think I will try the new Lepin Technic set, I newer had Technic bric before.

Do that - was really happy with all Technic sets I got so far.
The quality was really good just the pins are a bit harder to get in but nothing to worry about

[Break]

I like the medieval/pirat themes (lot of old Lego sets and some Lepin pirats), Star Wars , and cars (VW Bus, Cox, Mini).

The last MOC from Xinbao are awaysome.

I think I will try the new Lepin Technic set, I newer had Technic bric before.

Je suis heureux de vous voir comme Star War, les pirates, médiévale. Moi aussi.
Alors bienvenue lepinBoard.de et forum international. Nous avons besoin de plus de gens ici. Salutations.


Gut, dass Sie wie Star War, Piraten zu sehen, mittelalterlich. Ich auch.
Dann willkommen zu lepinBoard.de und internationalen Forum. Wir brauchen mehr Leute hier. Ein Gruß.

[RedBrick]

I surely think so too, but maybe they would compensate him for his set they already used.
Would love to see that...

Actually, in April I did ask Xingbao for compensation (since I had their email address but not yet Lepin's). They declined, stating they're not the same company; however, they wanted to make two of my other designs. I didn't reply, although that didn't stop them from asking thrice more for the other designs. I then did reply, stating that they should not misinterpret my asking for compensation for the university as entering negotiations for the other designs. I also let them know they didn't convince me that they're a separate company. They responded quite at length with Chinese documents allegedly proving their independence.

Haven't heard from or written to them since May.

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

Too bad. Would have been interesting to see what they would have offered you.
And I guess they are legaly an independend company although they seem to be linked to Lepin somehow.

[RedBrick]

Too bad. Would have been interesting to see what they would have offered you.
And I guess they are legaly an independend company although they seem to be linked to Lepin somehow.

3000 USD + 1% or 6000 USD.

[flo]

Very interesting, thank you. That's actually much more than I thought - it would be interesting how many sets they usually sell and if they're honest with your 1%.

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

Thanks - yes, that's more than I would have thought too.

[RedBrick]

Why would Xingbao be willing to offer up to 6k per design but not publicly denounce Lepin's transgressions, unless they have financial ties? Therefore, why would I want to enter into a business agreement with a company that potentially is being dishonest with me? The money was not enough to overcome a deficient effort to establish the level of trust I expected.

[RedBrick]

If a guy steals cash from your wallet, would you deposit the rest of your money in his brother's bank?

[Benutzer 670 gelöscht]

It's you good right to turn the offer down if you don't want their money. So then don't.

I just think you can't ask Xingbao for compensation for stuff Lepin did to you.
It might be the same corporation but legaly idependent companies. But I don't know that. Still if you have your legitimate beef with Lepin you have to go to Lepin. I also can't go to Porsche if I have trouble with Volkswagen.

Xingbao offered you a deal. You didn't want to go with it - that's fine.
I just think it your goal is to make money out of your MOCs and see them built by other brick fans all over the world it would have been the only easy way to do so at the moment.

However I wish you the best for the future and that you'll be able to sell some of your instructions to fans so that you can please them and make dome money out of your hobby yourself this way!
And I hope even more than you still have a good time with the bricks!

[Neogene]

Why would Xingbao be willing to offer up to 6k per design but not publicly denounce Lepin's transgressions, unless they have financial ties? Therefore, why would I want to enter into a business agreement with a company that potentially is being dishonest with me? The money was not enough to overcome a deficient effort to establish the level of trust I expected.

Man, stop your whining and grow up. You seem to have enough money if you can decline up to 6k. So why ask them in the first place?

There are not the same Company, they have ties but that doesn´t mean that one firm is responsible for the other. Its simple as that.
Because of your silly pride you leave easy money on the street, sure, it´s you decission but i find it dumb and petty.

What kind of compensation you get from Lego Ideas? As far as i know NOTHING, beside the publicity. In comparison i find the xb offer very nice, it is a step in the right direction.

[flo]

Let's stay civil, guys. RedBrick's concerns are valid, as is his decision to decline the offer. And fyi, as far as I know Lego also offers 1% to published Ideas designers.

[Neogene]

You are right, my post seems a bit harsh. But i can´t help it, i have my own store since 15 years and i have to swallow my pride on many occastions for a few euros. For 6k i have to work 4 months at least, 50 hours a week. And here he has the opportunity to make some good cash, maybe get an invite to the next toy fare in china, i would take the chance immediately.

[mention]flo[/mention]
Maybe they get 1% but lets be real, there are only a handful of ideas that get published. So your chance to get some money out of it is abysmal and with a set like the Apple university like zero. Most of the time, the really good sets are too big and expensive for lego, it is a shame what great sets were declined this year in their stupid process (obversatorium for instance).